New for sw 2020

Hello community, how are you?

Well here we  have just moved to sw 2020 and given that there is no more mycad  (GRRR !!!   :( ) and that I haven't faded the 250 pages of the pdf yet, can you share some innovation(s) that you found nice on this new version as well as your impressions.

Thank you.

May the force be with you.

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Hello

For my part, I didn't find anything very positive in this 2020 version.

On the other hand, display bugs and unparalleled slowness .... :-(

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You don't necessarily need to read the 240 pages xD

Just about basic SW, you only have a few chapters. The rest is on the supplements (unless you use them perhaps)

In short, it takes like 10 min max ^^

The nice stuff: the marking on the part/assembly, the improvement of the creation of symmetrical parts, the different positions on the same MEP view, the possibility to register in the 2020 version an assembly without the child parts, the envelope tool etc. 

You will find a whole summary on pages 15-16

@++

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At the somewhat heavy drawing aperture, the option of being able to open it in wrap mode to simply take dimensions and which allows the faster opening. But I find that the drawings are also very slow for parts that are not that heavy...

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Hello @Obi Wan

It is the constraints in the assemblies that have improved significantly because since 2019 we have no longer had to open the part to remove it, but it is above all the way of setting the constraints. They are improved compared to the 2019 or when the screw was not in the right direction it was a mess. There they created a small icon that allows the meaning to be reversed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImEQI0wo_2o&feature=emb_rel_pause

For me who does a lot of kinematics, it's the new function under flexible assembly much better than before
https://www.solidworks.com/media/whats-new-solidworks-2020-flexible-components

I also love the fillet and chamfer repair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2HutndnzB8&list=PLiKqXuECiKNLTM8UXfT98yaStcUt_L30H&index=6

More improvements to work with a pencil on a tablet or you can very quickly make a piece or a sketch for those who know how to draw with a freehand in perspective. Obviously very few people still work with a tablet but if you are a design supervisor then you can easily modify a part and add the comments that go well. This avoids going back and forth with the supervisor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0w671qFriU&list=PLiKqXuECiKNLTM8UXfT98yaStcUt_L30H&index=19.
It's especially in the creation of small design sketches (for the first drafts) that things go much faster with the tablet. At least much faster than with design sketches and blocks.

In the MEP you can have the view of another position, this allows you to display the ghost of different configs as if you were superimposing the different parts. Very useful for checking the o.c. dimensions http://help.solidworks.com/2020/french/WhatsNew/t_drawing_alternate_position_views.htm#wzz1549655616952

In sheet metal work, improvement of the unfolded state http://help.solidworks.com/2020/french/WhatsNew/c_convert_sheet_metal.htm?id=e2cde9e2c098457a8d2303255a3d12e3#Pg0

Many, many things, but to be adapted according to what the company produces. (see for example the creation of silhouette entities to communicate only the essentials in group work)

I had the impression of a clear improvement with the 2019 and especially the 2020 unlike in the past where there was only the addition of features based on the same principle. Now there is more and more that is close to Nurbs drawings (cf. in this regard the decimation of a graphic mesh body). Thus, it is possible to directly modify native STL files without going through a conversion.

We could say that there is an acceleration compared to the 2018 and of course everything that is before. For those who can't get the 2019 and the 2020 I have a very strong feeling that they are going to be victims of the technological deficit, It's not a problem in their company which has relatively stable products in terms of design and innovation but it will certainly be for the rest of their career.

Kind regards

 

PS: @à all of us can talk about the technological deficit if you want  ;-)  ;-)

 

 

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Hello

Thank you for your feedback with your information I know what to peel first. I will leave this post open for the time being in order to let it live.

At first what I find nice but gadgets is the animated thumbnails.

See you soon at MyCAD 2021???????

Have a good day to you.

May the Force be with you

 

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We are preparing the installation of the 2020 as well (update since 2018) thank you for the feedback!

What scares me is the slowness... As we have more and more complex assemblies.

A colleague culminates the genre with more than 80,000 pieces in particular. (decompose into several assemblies and sub-assemblies)

@sbadenis ,

We also have assemblies of an enormous size. We didn't really suffer from SW2019 I hope 2020 will be at least  like SW 2019. At first glance 2020 seems to me more fluid in the zoom ofzoom with I find a very good sharpness images on the screen. On the other hand I find  that the loading from the servers is  longer but it's only a first impression.

may the force be with you.

 

 

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Thanks for the feedback @OBI WAN with or without PDM?

For our part, we work without working on the live server, about 20 cartoonists.

Hello

For my part, it's indeed the same observation as Pierre.S

@+.

AR

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 @sbadenis

exactly like us, no PDM and 15 cartoonists.

For our activity we have developed a drawing method based on schematic representations of our assemblies, parts and sub-assemblies. We also use the Defeature once an assembly is 100% finalized and punctually the speedpack only at the beginning of the deal or just during the day.

may the force be with you.

 

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Hi all

Performance on individual workstations with a hardware config works very well, but you seem to have significant differences if you work in a network and/or PDM.

It seems indicated -but this you had of course understood- that the effort must be focused on the server which is certainly not optimized for multi-users working on the same set or groups of sets (there is quite a bit of latency on all floors). So either it's your organization that adapts to the server, or it's the server that has to be the subject of a very tight scope. What costs the company are humans when we slow down their natural productivity while we don't ask the server  for its opinion, so we might as well take care of the independent IT part of SW.
In fact, it's a classic thing in IT and one of the good solutions is both to adapt the organization and of course to do a hard job on the servers which are rarely optimized in SMEs where this is not the core business.

Fortunately the force and surely with you  :-) You already have intelligence ;-)

Kind regards

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Hello @OBI WAN

I do a little HS

[HS ON]

The problem of large assemblies scratches the heads of many people in the world.

But the developers of SW have been tackling this problem since 2019 and will hit the ground running in 2021.

Look here, there is a bench between two versions of Solidworks, including the 2021. Watch at 11:14 it's even more spectacular than between the 2018 and the 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxuvhHFsfLc

You have other very spectacular functions ;-)in the rest of the Video

[HS/OFF]

Kind regards

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Hello

I confirm I really have a lot of latency really a lot compared to the 2019 that I already regret after 2 days of use. I'm afraid for the future. SW2020 a real disaster.

may the force be with you.

 

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Hello @ OBI WAN

Watch in the video of the 2020 (from 10:57) you have to check something to have the large overall optimization. This has been around since 2019.

Look at the attachment ;-) and keep us informed. (If no improvement is not made, we don't send a test tube filled with covid virus to SW developers)

More seriously, you must be under maintenance so it's up to the hot line to assist you on this one.

Kind regards

 

 


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Hello @OBI WAN, hello @ all, 

I'm not supposed to tell you right now but since you're talking about it... We are preparing the next myCADday in 100% digital for November 5, 2020! And for this edition, users will be in the spotlight for your greatest pleasure:)

I'll tell you more soon, don't hesitate to follow Lynkoa's Twitter page to get the live information https://twitter.com/lynkoa 

Have a good day to you:) 

Coralie 

 

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Hello @Coralie,

I take note of it and already reserve my date. I guess you can't say too much yet but I would have liked to know how long it takes place in order to block my agenda.

Thank you.

may the force be with you.

 

 

For those who have slow drawings:

We found a bug on the 2020 Sp3.0.

If the hatching pattern is very complicated for a given material with a high scale, even a basic drawing makes a hammer as soon as there is a cut (we had a 'houndstooth' pattern with scale 64 ...).

The solution: take 'simple' hatching and not too high scale factors or ideally a plain display.

The RPD, if you want to vote for them to correct it, is that it will be ... ain of bug: spr 1156484 (we can dream for an update in sp5.0)

Nb: when you choose a plain pattern you have another display bug since SW2014...: the spr number is the 476546. But the circumvention method described in the RPD is simple.

 

Otherwise for those who have EPDM: the 2020 sp 3.0 of SW+EPDM is a cursed combination: EPDM manages to create bugs in the SW user interface. My team is in the process of firing crazy....

A priori (according to the hotline..) this problem would be solved in Sp4.0

The epdm sp3.0 conversion tool also has a bug when archiving once the files are converted: the archiving time is about 5 to 8x the time needed for the conversion -> it really takes a long time and the tasks tend to crash. When it crashes we are good to cancel the extraction or archive the files by hand on the computer that crashed (archiving or canceling the extraction on 5000 files: the dream ...). I don't know if the PS4.0 corrects this problem.

In conclusion: as usual with each new version SW fixes 1 bug, adds an improvement and created 2 bugs that didn't exist before... Not sure that the balance is really positive. At the moment I spend my days with the visiativ hotline and that of my EPDM dealer...

It should be better in 4 months when we'll be on the sp5 and we'll have all the tricks to get around the different bugs (you have to stay optimistic in life)

 

 

 

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@froussel ,

Thank you for this feedback and sharing of experience which will surely be useful for us.

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may the force be with you.

 

@Zozo_mp ,

thank you for your info here is my feedback above you advise me =>

"Look in the video of the 2020 (from 10:57) you have to tick something to have the optimization large set. This has been around since 2019."

I had the hotline yesterday and here is their feedback =>"

When you took charge of your workstation you explained to me the problems you encountered, namely about 10 minutes more opening on a large file, slowness when you work on it (not zooming or rotating), as well as slowness when you go from one 3D to another,  

As mentioned, I invite you to go to Tools->Options -> Performance and uncheck improved graphics performance, 

Restart solidworks and do an open test, "

I specify that I am on a state-of-the-art PC that I received on Monday.

I still have to do some tests, I'll keep you posted.

may the force be with you.