Radiate only on the ends

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to make a radiation at the 2 ends over 25mm long and that the body remains flat.

I am attaching the 2 principle files and as far as the dimensions are concerned, they are random dimensions for the drawing.

File made in 2016 but I also have the 2021

Kind regards.

Syrius


cuillere_a_plat.sldprt
cuillere_u.sldprt

Hello

How do you shine?

Hello

I may have expressed myself badly, here is a new file that corresponds to the 2 ends.

What I would like is to keep the body straight with a receding effect on the cut of the ends

Kind regards.

Syrius


cuillere_u2.sldprt

Is this what you want?


cuillere_u2_mod2020.sldprt

Hello

not exactly

That's basically what I'm looking for but I want it to be progressive between the flat part and the stamped part and without protruding part as is the case here.

 

Syrius

Hello@cil dede_1

You know very well the difference in folding in real life and what can be shaped with software that would not be feasible.

In your case, if you really want progressiveness, as in my image with the flat part that connects the two chutes, you should not use for example "Sheet metal bent on edge" but draw the whole part flat as laser cutting would do, but you will have to work by iteration to obtain a whistle edge and then use the "sketched fold" function with the sketch who is doing well.

Note "sketched fold" is a bad translation because it means made from a line in a sketch: this line corresponds to the center of the Vé.

The other solution, but certainly not viable from a production point of view, is to do a recovery by removing the material. If it is a few parts, a manual rework is the simplest, if it is for hundreds or thousands, he has a tool made that will hold the part during  the removal of material.

Personally I would do a sophisticated laser cutting and folding with "sketched folds" knowing that you will have a difficulty in the workshop anyway after the indentation!.   That's why I said that solidwords can very well draw perfect shapes that are impossible to obtain exactly identically.

Kind regards

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Hello Zozo_mp,

Could I have a tutorial of the 1st method because I don't know this process because it makes me like the whole part impossible to keep the flat part in the middle

 

Cdt.

Syrius

Hello Syrius

Here is  what I propose a little in a hurry. I'm aware that it's not exactly the shape you want, but there's just one radius or spline to adjust in the sketch.

I can post you the model if you are in SW 2021.

Tell me if the model I propose suits you more or less

Kind regards

    So as not to bother reproducing the rounded shape, make just a quarter of the part and then symmetries.

Kind regards


cuillere_u_3__zozo.sldprt
2022-05-26_15_47_10-solidworks_premium_2021_sp5.1_-_cuillere_u_4__zozo.sldprt.jpg
cuillere_u_3__zozo_-_vue_3.sldprt.jpg
cuillere_u_3__zozo_-_vue_2_.sldprt.jpg
cuillere_u_3__zozo_-_vue_1.sldprt.jpg

No at all, that's not at all what I'm looking for, sorry.

Here is a sketch that will look more like my expectations but I want it to be flat in the middle and not radiate with a receding effect from the fold to the flat part

otherwise I'm on solidworks 2016 but I have the work PC which is under 2021

The dimensions given in my sketch are random dimensions that I would finalize in the end

Cdt and thank you for this patience.


cuillere_a_plat.sldprt
cuillere_a_plat.slddrw

Hello @cil dede_1,

If I understand correctly, the objective is to gradually connect the flat central part to the semicircular ends of the part.
Complicated with the volume functions, but no difficulty in surface area with three groups of functions: the flat background (in yellow), the connections which are portions of cones (in blue), the side wings which are left surfaces (based on a 3D sketch), quite close to planes if the central part is not too narrow.

No problem to flatten the surface, in red, with the edges delimiting the different areas.
The concern then comes from two kinds:
- it is impossible to give a significant thickness to the part, unless you agree to do it outwards. And at the cost of unsightly connections;
- Manufacturing will not be a walk in the park if the part is made of thick sheet metal, as your sketches suggest.

SW2021 model attached.

Kind regards

 


cuillere_u3.sldprt

it's better but it's not quite that

You must not unhook arriving on the flat part.

Cdt

Syrius.

Maybe this will help you;) 

 


cuillere_u2.sldprt

Hello Sirius

Sorry for not having met your expectations but  I took one of your images but now I completely understand with your last example and also the one proposed by @m.blt 

I see that you made a sketched fold ;-)

I come back to what m.blt says and that you had said previously to know how the part is made in production. Solidworks can very well make you the part you want: but at the fab you can only make it with a rework machining. and for the folding you have to do a pre-fold and then a stamping with a Vé et Contre-Vé created for the occasion.

The last part and what you can do best without rework because in your last part SW partially takes into account the deformation of the fitting.

You can confirm the thickness 2mm, what material  and also  what the part is used for, because depending on the degree of finish, we can imagine other solutions.

Good luck for the future, I'm handing over

Kind regards

YIPPEE

Thanks guys, M.blt found what I wanted to do but now I just have to implement and adjust all this.

Zozo_mp also thank you to  you who also looked into my subject  and you don't need to be sorry, there's no harm.

As far as the thickness is concerned, it will be between 1.2 and 1.5 and will be made on a stainless steel base but very malleable, moreover already done on somewhat similar refs and almost no bounce when folding.

Just one last little thing, I tried to understand how to do it but it's a waste of time so would there be a charitable soul to make me a little video tutorial from A to Z

Kind regards.

Syrius

Hello Syrius,

Finally, the part can be modeled in a relatively simple way with the sheet metal module of SolidWorks.
A tutorial doesn't seem essential to me...
See attached file (SW 2021)

Kind regards.


cuillere_u4.sldprt

Hello @m.blt 

Nice modeling and very clever transition fold.

@cil.dede_1 I would like to see the piece once finished and especially what you were forced to do in fab especially for the equivalent of the transition fold (mini crunching ????) and this  to get to the same level of shape as the model of @m.blt

Kind regards.

Hi everyone,

Sorry for this late return but no matter how much I flip the latest version cuillere_u4.sldprt I don't understand anything.

I used the penultimate proposal cuillere_u2.sldprt even if I didn't assimilate everything.

That's why a tutorial in design video would be welcome that I will keep my elbow on.

Thank you.

Syrius

Hello Syrius,

A short video of the definition of the spoon in its u4 version, the simplest...

Kind regards.
 


cuillere_u4.avi
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Hello @m.blt 

Nice tutorial and beautiful mastery of the design

Kind regards

 Hello m.blt 

Great tutorial! Simple and effective! Well done.

Kind regards