Edge of undefined shape

Hello
I'm looking for the symbol for undefined shaped edges (the symbol looks like a right angle with tolerances). It was impossible to get your hands on it. Do you have a solution?

Thanks in advance

Hello;
The topic has been discussed here:
https://forum.mycad.visiativ.com/t/cotation-iso-arete-non-definie/98553
Solidworks doesn't seem to offer it originally, the easiest way would be to create a block.
Or, if you're Brave, it's possible to create custom symbols:
https://help.solidworks.com/2021/french/SolidWorks/sldworks/c_creating_custom_symbols_overview.htm

https://www.goengineer.com/blog/create-custom-symbols-solidworks

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Are there really any who use this symbol?
:crazy_face::crazy_face: :crazy_face:

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To add to the symbol definition file:

;; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
;;									Arête de forme non déinie ISO 13715
;;
#AEDDND,Arête ext. - Dégagement requis - ISO 13715 - Dir. non définie
*0-0, Dégagement requis
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A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
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A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.6,1.36,-
*005, Dégagement 0,05 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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*010, Dégagement 0,1 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
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*020, Dégagement 0,2 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.8,1.36,-0,2
*030, Dégagement 0,3 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
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*040, Dégagement 0,4 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
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*050, Dégagement 0,5 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
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*100, Dégagement 1,0 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
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*150, Dégagement 1,5 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
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*200, Dégagement 2,0 requis
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.8,1.36,-2

#AIDDND,Arête int. - Dégagement requis - ISO 13715 - Dir. non définie
*0-0, Dégagement requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
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A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.2,1.36,-
*005, Dégagement 0,05 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.58,1.36,-0,05
*010, Dégagement 0,1 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
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A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
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*020, Dégagement 0,2 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-0,2
*030, Dégagement 0,3 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-0,3
*040, Dégagement 0,40 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-0,4
*050, Dégagement 0,5 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-0,5
*100, Dégagement 1,0 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-1
*150, Dégagement 1,5 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-1,5
*200, Dégagement 2,0 requis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,-2

#AEBDND,Arête ext. - Bavure admise - ISO 13715 - Dir. non définie <centré>
*0-0, Bavure admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.6,1.36,+
*005, Bavure 0,05 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 3.1,1.36,+0,05
*010, Bavure 0,1 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+0,1
*020, Bavure 0,2 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+0,2
*030, Bavure 0,3 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+0,3
*040, Bavure 0,4 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+0,4
*050, Bavure 0,5 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+0,5
*100, Bavure 1,0 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+1
*150, Bavure 1,5 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
A,LINE 1.92,1.98,1.92,.78
A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+1,5
*200, Bavure 2,0 admise
A,LINE 0,-.3,.72,-.3
A,LINE .72,-.3,.72,-1.02
A,POLY .72,-.3,1.22,.05,1.07,.2
A,LINE .72,-.3,1.68,.66
A,LINE 1.68,.66,3.97,.66
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A,LINE 1.92,.78,3.1,.78
A,TEXT 2.85,1.36,+2

#AIRDND,Arête int. - Raccordement admis - ISO 13715 - Dir. non définie <centré>
*0-0, Raccordement admis
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A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.2,1.36,+
*005, Raccordement 0,05 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.7,1.36,+0,05
*010, Raccordement 0,1 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
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A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.45,1.36,+0,1
*020, Raccordement 0,2 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.45,1.36,+0,2
*030, Raccordement 0,3 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.45,1.36,+0,3
*040, Raccordement 0,40 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.45,1.36,+0,4
*050, Raccordement 0,5 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
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A,TEXT 2.45,1.36,+0,5
*100, Raccordement 1,0 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,+1
*150, Raccordement 1,5 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
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*200, Raccordement 2,0 admis
A,LINE 0,-0.6,0.72,-0.6
A,LINE 0,0.12,0,-0.6
A,POLY 0,-0.6,0.5,-0.25,0.35,-0.1
A,LINE 0.3,-0.3,1.26,0.66
A,LINE 1.26,0.66,3.55,0.66
A,LINE 1.5,1.98,1.5,0.78
A,LINE 1.5,0.78,2.68,0.78
A,TEXT 2.38,1.36,+2

;;
;; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
;;									Indications générales
;;
*AEAR, Spécification d'autre état d'arète requis
A,POLY 0,0,.5,.35,.35,.5
A,LINE 0,0,.96,.96
A,LINE .96,.96,2.38,.96
A,LINE 1.2,2.28,1.2,1.08
A,LINE 1.2,1.08,2.38,1.08
*AE2-5, Arête ext. - Dégagement requis - Taille: 0,2mm à 0,5mm
A,TEXT 0,1.66,ISO
A,TEXT 1.8,1.66,13715
A,LINE 1.5,0,2.22,0
A,LINE 2.22,0,2.22,-.72
A,POLY 2.22,0,2.72,.35,2.57,.5
A,LINE 2.22,0,3.18,.96
A,LINE 3.18,.96,5.47,.96
A,LINE 3.42,2.28,3.42,1.08
A,LINE 3.42,1.08,4.6,1.08
A,TEXT 4.3,2.66,-0,2
A,TEXT 4.3,1.66,-0,5
A,BOUND -1.2,6.5
*AI, Arête intérieure
A,LINE 0.,.1,0.,1
A,LINE 1,.1,0.,.1
A,BOUND -.2,.25
*AE01, Arête ext. - Dégagement requis - Taille: -0,1mm
A,TEXT 0,1.66,ISO
A,TEXT 1.8,1.66,13715
A,LINE 1.5,0,2.22,0
A,LINE 2.22,0,2.22,-.72
A,POLY 2.22,0,2.72,.35,2.57,.5
A,LINE 2.22,0,3.18,.96
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A,LINE 3.42,2.28,3.42,1.08
A,LINE 3.42,1.08,4.6,1.08
A,TEXT 4.3,1.66,-0,1
A,BOUND -1.2,6.5
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Thanks for sharing @Silver_Surfer :grinning:
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Note: the file to be completed with these new symbol codes is:
=> Gtol.sym

  • The original can be found under:
    " C:\ProgramData\SOLIDWORKS\SOLIDWORKS 2022\lang\english\gtol.sym "

But, as usual, I advise you to work on a copy of this file in a network location and redirect the file locations in the Solidworks options...)
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The annotation itself does not exist (yet).
There is a request for improvement:
Edge annotation (3ds.com)
If, like me - with all due respect to @sbadenis - you use this symbol, I invite you to vote for this improvement...

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No need for us @Silver_Surfer (and good for me!). :wink:
On the other hand, more than complete response for the initial request. Well done!

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Thank you for all the answers

Hello

I just voted but we can see how quickly SW takes into account the requests for a standardized symbol according to the ISO which should be in the software.

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As you say... But this is a good argument to oppose to the announcement of price increases when renewing licenses!

Between losing all your history to switch to another 3D software and a few bug oversights or other recurring problems or not, they know very well that for us the choice is quickly made. Basically, we are held by the c...
And it's not about to change...

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Eagerly integrating AI :face_with_hand_over_mouth: :no_mouth:
No more bugs, no more aberration, ...

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