Digital Cutting Furniture

Hello

 

I really thought I would find the answer on the internet but finally ... Not so much.

 

I modeled furniture (for a boat) using solidworks, so they are assemblies, composed of parts, or even sub-assembly and I now have to move on to phase 2: flattening everything to make a layout for sending to the CNC cut.

To be honest, I don't even know where to start. A new configuration? But the constraints prevent me from putting my part "flat".

 

Has anyone ever had to do this? (surely), in which case could he give me a solution?

 

Thank you very much,

Hello

I would proceed to put a configuration called "flat" for each part that needs to be unfolded.

Then for the history of constraints, if in your assembly the part is not in the "flat" configuration, it should not lose these constraints.

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See this link

http://www.logopress3.com/fr/nesting.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaPbBX-4ygY

among others

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If they are parts to unfold, then it's sheet metal, it's a shame not to have modeled them with the sheet metal module which gives the tools to do the unfolding (and therefore automatically do what vspemens proposes).

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Just make a shot by selecting the bodies, do it piece by piece.

 

Otherwise, create a new part from each part and make the mep or export in dxf

 

Which numerical control is to be controlled? What about programming software?

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Hello, hum I wouldn't judge I was doing the same when I started! but still one who goes for it and then wonders how to do it! :) Next time, think about what you want in the end and how you have to get it! Like the others I would say that since you were going to make sheet metal, it would have been better to use the TOLERIE mode!  Otherwise apart from fiddling with to have the parts flat.... knowing that if later you modify your parts, it will soon be BAGHDAD... The best, but by far the longest, would be to redo your parts in sheet metal...  

 

Regards and good luck!

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Without wanting to offend anyone, I never talked about metal parts. I make wooden furniture with cleat assemblies and I want to send it to a subcontractor who will cut it on CP panels.

so to answer your question @Bart☺, I don't know the type of NC that will be used or its programming software. 

I just have to send them a DXF file with the layout already made.

 

@gt22 I'm going to look at the software you offer, have you ever had the opportunity to test them?

 

In any case thank you for your feedback =)

 

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hi =) if it's wood the best would be to ask your supplier the dimensions of these panels and the thickness of his cutting tool then make an assembly of your parts (with the cutting tool gaps) so that it uses the maximum surface area per panel

I hope you understand me =)

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I keep moving forward, groping a little,

 

For the moment the solution of @vspemens seems good to me, 

In fact, in order not to have a problem with the existing constraints in the "default" config and to be able to flatten the part, you have to remove the constraints in the new assembly. Then you have to add "coincidental" constraints with one of the basic planes, which goes very quickly with the "multiple constraint mode"

 

On the other hand, when I go back to the "default" config there are conflicts between the constraints (the new ones for flattening and the old ones for positioning parts between them), so I have to delete the constraints I created again. Is there a way to say "do not apply the new constraints to configs other than the one enabled"?

 

Otherwise you have the possibility to isolate each room to save it in dxf by choosing what you want to see and on which plan

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Hello

So that the subcontractor has all the information, you just have to send him the WWTP of the cabinet and he will already manage... We also receive and send the WWTP for the ball...

It was the "flattening" that directed us towards sheet metal.

As a result, I have a hard time seeing what you call "flattening": is it the layout?

If so, no need to touch your current assembly, you just need to make another assembly.

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When he talks about flattening, he just wants to have for example his furniture upright in side view to see all the holes in trunnions, studs, cleats, grooves etc...

 

Do you do everything in a hurry? No edge drillings or anything else?

@ AC Cobra 427  Yes but the subcontractor will invoice us for the time he will spend making the layout, and he will necessarily spend more time on it than me who already knows the wood species of the veneers and the thicknesses of the parts. For him it's all beneficial if he receives a dxf he sends it directly to his machine and has nothing to do and we it costs us (much) less.

 

@ stefbeno  yes that's it, I have to make the layout of my furniture. Otherwise yes your idea of making another assembly with the "flat" configurations of the subassemblies seems more relevant to me than making a configuration grouping the "flat" configurations. I'm going to start with that.

@ Bart☺   yes, the backgrounds are slipped into grooves, and we also do some edge drilling, but it's more marginal because the screws must not appear on the visible facades. So it's basically cleats with positioning grooves on the parts, plus pointing of the hinge screws, push lock, drawer slide etc ...

 

 

You're sure because I have my best friend who is a carpenter and cabinetmaker and loads the 3d into his machine and fine-tunes the program and it's ok...

So no need for config.

You make an assembly by essence and thickness, which will be independent (except that they are the same parts files) of your main assembly.

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There is software for layout. Your supplier may be equipped with it and would therefore spend much less time than you to do it.

For the laser, we provide a dxf of each part with the thickness, the material, the direction of brushing (or the wire for wood).

And whether you cut internally or externally , laser cutting is equipped with automatic layout software according to the characteristics mentioned above , it takes very little time while carrying out an assembly is even...

The best thing to do is to see with your subcontractor what he can do and how.

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I'm a cabinetmaker by training, I didn't like having my grindstones full of cleats... Especially for the assembly

 

I used to work with studs + eccentric for the non-visible parts.

And cleats in some places but really for the adjustment on site.

 

In the layout, I worked everything in 2d on autocad, I exported in dxf in the bike and I added the different machining.

However, under no circumstances does the customer choose the type of fasteners and their positioning.

In carpentry, you don't fit the pieces into a large panel.

 

Finally, all the parts are cut via a flow log and then they are machined one by one on the machine.

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@ ac cobra 427  I will admit that I don't really know how the "real" carpenters do it. But - apart from the fact that he asks me for  a DXF already notebooked - if I send him a WWTP, he has no way of knowing the species and the grain of the wood? even if I can understand that a software can compare the thicknesses of the parts.

 

@ Bart☺  I don't really know why we favor cleats over studs + eccentric in the furniture of a boat. A question of cost? Or maybe the thickness of the panel, my thickest panels are 15mm, but the biggest is 12mm, does the ecentric fit in this thickness?