Make a drawing with tolerance and the same without tolerance, from a 3D with tolerance

Hello.

We draw individual parts for manufacturing with tolerances. We have just finished setting up our .drwdot

From the corresponding 3Ds, we also need to make an assembly drawing for the end customer, who does not have to know the tolerances of the parts, unlike the manufacturing drawings.

Is it possible, for example, to create an independent .drwdot on which we can specify not to display the dimension tolerance at all, even if it exists on the corresponding 3D? We don't want to create a configuration one with tolerance and one without. Do you have another idea?

Thanks in advance

Hello @  Franck.A

How do you create the odds in  .drwdot?

you say that it's the 3D dimensions so real dimensions imported from the 3D

Have you recreated a .drwdot client with auto rating without tolerance

or if you use the layers for dimensioning

Layers with and without  tolerances 

@+ ;-)

 

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See also this page

http://help.solidworks.com/2012/french/SolidWorks/sldworks/HIDD_DRAW_DIMTOL.htm?id=43d269e714c9453a952386b51d2e1796

Dimension Tolerance

The Dimension Tolerance dialog box can be accessed by clicking Tolerance in Tools, Options, Document Properties, Dimension Options .  It controls dimension tolerance values and the display of dimensions that are not integers. The options available depend on the tolerance type selected and change depending on whether you set the document options or apply the specifications to the selected dimensions. A window displays an overview of the dimension and tolerances.

Related text value

In TolAnalyst, when a dimension is related text with more than one value, you can select one and edit it.

Type of tolerance

Select one of the following tolerances: None, Absolute, Bilateral, Limit, Symmetric, MIN, MAX, Fit, Fit with Tolerance , or Fit (Tolerance Only). You can set the Tolerance Type to None, and then use the default settings for the maximum and minimum values, as well as for the font in the current document. When you change the properties of a dimension, the default tolerance settings will be those set in these options.

Tolerance values

Specify the Maximum Variation  and/or Minimum  Variation values appropriate to the tolerance type you selected.

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Thank you GT22.

To answer you: "have you recreated a .drwdot client with auto rating without tolerance"

That's precisely what I would like to do, but I can't do it...

FYI I don't use layers at all currently.

I make 3D parts dimensioned with tolerance. I draw each part for manufacturing (so with the ribs tolerated). For this drawing I start with a .drwdot that I set as I wish, example .123 at the nominal and .12 at the tolerance...

So I assumed that to make a drawing of my assembly, on which I can get my nominal manufacturing dimensions only, I would have to create another drwdot or I only ask for the nominal, but I can't do it...
 

 

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 See also this page

http://help.solidworks.com/2012/french/SolidWorks/sldworks/HIDD_DRAW_DIM...

Dimension Tolerance

The Dimension Tolerance dialog box can be accessed by clicking Tolerance in Tools, Options, Document Properties, Dimension Options .  It controls dimension tolerance values and the display of dimensions that are not integers. The options available depend on the tolerance type selected and change depending on whether you set the document options or apply the specifications to the selected dimensions. A window displays an overview of the dimension and tolerances.

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Thank you... But this manipulation does not prevent the appearance of tolerances on the sides


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yet it should

since we are asking for no tolerance

How do you do your rating?

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Otherwise it might be possible to put all the tolerances in a layer, and when sending the plans to a client, it would just be necessary to hide the "tolerance" layer???  

Be careful, I didn't try before talking...

Cdt

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My rating on my model is made with tolerance...

I import my ribs into the model since I was drawn, quite simply, so the tolerated ribs are displayed with their tolerance.

The proposed manipulation did not allow me to solve the problem.

On the other hand, indeed, I can see to switch the tolerances on a tolerance layer, I can't try it right away but it can be a solution...

I think it's a shame that I can't just disable them on the .drwdot

 

So in your drawing it's the imported 3D dimensions

and if you dimension your drawing without importing the dimensions of the 3D

 

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Hello

I'm not sure you can dissociate tolerances and dimensions to put them on different layers!!

Kind regards

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You need to do 2 drawings

1 dimension in the Manu dimensioning plan without tolerance

1 with imported 3 D ribs with tolerances

to watch MDB

 

GT22:

In Creo, we worked on our drawings with dimensions from the 3D model, allowing us to make changes to our 3Ds directly via the double click on the dimension in the drawing.

This method suited us quite well. That's why I had the idea of recovering as many of the 3d manufacturing dimensions as possible on the drawing.

For a manufacturing part, no problem since we need these tolerances.

On the other hand, once the model is assembled, the drawing of the assembly is dedicated to a customer who does not have to know our tolerances.
Some coasts will have to be created, yes I agree... But I would have liked not to have to create all of them on the assembly drawing , and to have been able to recover dimensions by applying a filter that would only show the primary; Too bad lol

 

Nevertheless

Yes, the problem is the habits of a software 

and believe that what is possible with a log

is possible with another 

Each log has its qualities and defects 

+ do you really believe that the lack of tolerances on the sides can prevent a specialized reader from making the parts with acceptable tolerances 

Me personally I doubt it

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@ Franck.A, what format is the plan you send to your client, PDF or other?

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PDF

 

Hello

The solution may then be to select all the dimensions and remove the tolerances before creating your PDF. You should not re-register your SLDDRW and SLDASM after this exercise otherwise you lose the tolerances on your 3Ds. If this is too tedious or time-consuming to do each time, you can then create a macro that automates all this for the creation of your PDFs for the customer.

Kind regards

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Hello d.roger

I'll try this manipulation, thank you