@ Aurélien you work permanently with your laptop or only on the go
Do you have a fixed station?
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@gt22, I'm constantly working on it, I have a docking station
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and a screen or 2 comfortable on your docking station I presume and external drive
because working permanently on a 15 inch has been doing more for a long time
the age being there ;-)
I have 2 screens 24 and 22 inches
and I would like to change my 22
maybe by a 27 or another 24 still under reflection
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@ neroz out of curiosity it's for you or your company
I found you this nice little thing to my taste value for money ;-)
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Dell-Precision-M6800-i7-4810MQ-32GB-256GB-SSD-500GB-K3100M-4GB-17-3-3-YEAR-NEW-/231835575075?hash=item35fa7a2323:g:f78AAOSwJb9Ws5gW
a French keyboard if you don't want to put stickers
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Clavier-Francais-Original-Pour-Dell-Precision-M4800-M6800-Serie-Neuf-/191749747716?hash=item2ca52cf404:g:F5YAAOSwAKxWXtiF
and there are many others, this is just one example
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Good evening
Mac or pc, because that's kind of the basis of the question
So yes I used SolidWorks for quite a long time on a Windows partition, but in direct boot not in virtual machine
config macbook pro 13.3 ssd and 8GB of ram at 2.4Gh of proc
Solidworks 2014 works very well to draw a part, for an assembly of 10 pieces it does it but then it heats up and the image is jerky.
So if you do like me a balance between graphics software on Mac and 10% of the time a little solidworks in mobil the MacBook C is great but if it's to design on the move I recommend more a Dell 6800 and equivalent or the Z15 from HP
If you have a good budget (not like me) look at boxx the mobile station see the ultra slim -> expensive but very powerful.
for the rest GT22 has a very good site of used machines which are very honorable and really cheap
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@gt22 for the screen look at IIyama the prolyte X2783HSU I'm very happy with it, on the other hand super disappointed by the prolyte 2773 even if it's 1ms
great for games but too bright for 3D
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Thank you for all your answers
@gt22
The PC is for my company, I try to look at my needs and the budget that is allocated to the purchase of the PC which is about 2000€. Thank you for the ebay links, it's very interesting.
@gerald
I use Solidworks very regularly, let's say that I spend half the week on it. I prefer to have a mobile station because I can easily move it around to see customers or others. That's why I'm looking for a PC that isn't too heavy and why I'm interested in the msi range that has been presented in the various links because it's the right weight/size I'm looking for. I looked at boxx, but it's super expensive, a little too much compared to my budget:) I'll look at the references you give me
@neroz
Frankly I have colleagues who have MSIs and who are very satisfied with them.
They opted for a gamer version with a graphics card (gtx 970) which allows them to make quality presentations under edrawing (I did some test and was surprised by the results)
It turns out that a perfect professional station for solidworks is not so perfect for .easm.
Gamer PCs are much better for the presentation of eDrawing files by the fluidity of the images without losing the display of the parts when rotating an assembly with more than 500 parts.
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All right
I think that I will go for a professional graphics card and this msi PC: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00199548.html
I find MSI PCs light and bulky compared to a dell or HP. In addition, the price is more or less the same.
For my vision of things it's a good machine, you have to see if the M2000 is as efficient as a 2100
But otherwise with this type of machine there is really something to work with.
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Thank you very much Gerald
Hello Neroz
For 480 euros less, it's better to take the best of the best. My workstation doesn't weigh much more.
I looked at your MSI config it's not bad at all, the only flaw with 6 cells you will be limited in
autonomy on SW.
Kind regards
I'm like you ;-)
to the study of the 2 pcs my preference is value for money to your DELL 6800
6800 advantage for me
17 P display
NVidea 3100 graphics card vs NVidea 2000
proc sup graphics card on the DELL intel HD 4600 vs intel HD 530
so annoying + important graphics memory on the DELL
number of memory sticks possibility to switch to 32 Giga ditto MSI
Number of battery cells
DVD burner drive that can be replaced by a sup hard disk ;-)
Advantage for MSI
better resolution on the MSI 4096 against 3840 but on a 15p you don't see a diff
the weight 1.9 Kg against 3.5 Kg the dell
conso proc 35 w MSI against 47 W the dell
That's my conclusion for me
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Thank you @Gt22 for this comparison it's very interesting
It's true that the Dell is interesting, but the 17-inch and the weight are really an important aspect for me. In addition, the msi has 2 hard disks directly, which the Dell doesn't have.
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@neroz
I think it's an option, the second hard disk that can be negligible with an external Firewire or Thunderbolt. At worst take a large capacity SSD and split it in half (budget question it's not the best)
you have today 1T SSD (2 arms an eye) but if we do the ratio between a 10 or 15000 rpm the SSD passes in front hands down.
it's nice the msi it works very well (displease the detractor) but if it's to do a real big CAD job the Dell will only fit better (personally I prefer it to an hp but that's a clean opinion)
We talk, we talk, but is it necessary to take a Ferrari to drive on country roads?
As I said before, if you have the budget, you can have everything , light and powerful.... but otherwise it's a choice
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Thank you @Gerald,
It's true that there's no point in taking a Ferrari for country roads, but I'd rather take a good PC that will last me 3-4 years and that will still hold up rather than having a PC that will be outdated in 2 years:)
I find that 2000€ excl. VAT is not necessarily much for a work tool that will last at least 3 years, the investment is quickly amortized. This corresponds to my needs, because I regularly make 3D renderings (17 min currently for a rendering with a normal definition I find it huge) and I regularly manipulate SW. After of course I can take the msi of the range above and it costs 2700€ HT, but I don't need it
@gt22
you would be a very good gt22 salesman, small precision we can integrate a second hard drive in the Dell.
Thank you for passing on the info.
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In addition @ jjhugueville
and if I'm not mistaken, via a shopping cart, a 3rd one instead of the burner drive
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@gt22
exact gt22
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be careful when you see PCIe SSD .... It's not the 2.5 format, it's the PCB board that is very expensive and that is currently limited in capacity. (MSI config)
a 500GB ssd costs around 170€ +/- but a pcie c ssd is 150€ for 128GB
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