@Bart was pretty much on the subject at one point!
3Dvincy in stereolitography
Good result for 399€ with little complicated adjustment
Then the more you go up in price the more the software is complete. Personally with all the tests I have done I advise against kit printers, or even would rather go for ultimaker or reprap (but or budjet)
if it's for art and nothing functional the prussa version of the Alu chassis is very good but a 60% success rate (better than the kits where we go down to 30% among neophytes)
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@Gerald: I can't find the model you're talking about in stereolithography at 400€, do you have a link?
Hello
Stereo at 400€, I'd like to have a link too.
While searching for Prusa, I found these models even cheaper:
Prusa I3 at €258:
At 260€
Hello .PL, I'm following up on your email that I just received. The first question you have to ask yourself is: what applications do you intend this printer for? This already eliminates a lot of machines, both in terms of print volume and material compatibility.
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Hi all!
So what you need to know is what you want to do with it.
Quality of parts, prototyping or complex assembly etc...
The dimensions of the rooms you want to the maximum.
If you want a stew that lasts 1 month, take the prusa i3
The print r bot is expensive for what it contains. You mostly pay for the design.
Either you go for an ultimate wire removal which is the best compromise and the best value for money. This allows you to have a scalable machine. You start without options and you add them little by little according to your request and your budget.
Then you have printers that solidify resin, but I don't know too much.
The final result is not bad
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For a basic ultimaker without options already assembled, you get about 1200 euros of memory.
Ours is a basic ultimaker with all the options. Assembled kit and parts purchased in China.
Total price about 550 euros + hours of assembly. =)
You can then go for the ultimaker 2 which I find beautiful but expensive....
Honestly, ours runs very well, we have 2 extrusion heads, a heating bed.
The frame is made of laser-cut wood, and the rest ordered in China on alibaba or other....
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To answer you about the goal, it's really the introduction to 3D printing for the discovery on a personal level, so I don't know yet what I will be able to produce as a part! And that's why I limited myself to the budget.
@Bart, when you say "ours" is it the one you use in your company? I also thought that we could start using this process in my company, and I would like to "get my hands dirty" on the subject before :)
@Bart The scalable nature of an open-source machine is certainly an undeniable asset, but these printers are intended for users with a minimum of experience and a minimum of tinkerers - which does not seem to be the case with .PL.
The problem is that under 500 € you essentially have open-source models or machines that have not yet proven themselves. It would be better if you agreed to put a little more money and have a machine that really suits your needs and your level of experience.
Personally I would recommend the Up-Mini (797 €) which would be a good compromise. A plug and play, reliable and proven machine.
Ok thanks, and between the models I proposed, no preferences? You don't know them? Are they too recent?
MOD-T at $399: https://store.newmatter.com//#!/mod-t-3d-printer
M3D at $349: http://store.printm3d.com/?homepage
Printrbot Play at $ 399: http://printrbot.com/shop/assembled-printrbot-play/
The Printrbot Play looks good, see this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3q9f_0Lcu8
MOD-T, it's too fresh... Lack of hindsight, personally I won't take the risk. All these low-cost models from crowdfunding, it is better to wait 1 year, the time to have the first feedback. Regarding the M3D, it is not bad for "recreational" and discovery use, the downside is that it is very slow (my review article). Lack of hindsight also for the PrintrBot Play.
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@PL
http://www.darty.com/nav/achat/informatique/imprimante_scanner/imprimante/index.html
XYZ PRINTING DA VINCI JUNIOR
but it's very small
I don't recommend the Da Vinci. Apart from the fact that I didn't get very good feedback, the cartridges are proprietary (between 35 and 50 € for 600 g).
@Gerald: I have seen this printer but it is not stereo lithography! And in addition I read that it is a proprietary filament so to be avoided!
@bart: I couldn't find a kit for Ultimaker for less than 800 euros.
And you say that the printrbot is expensive while the models are $400,500. Is the impression so bad?
Yop .PL. I do a little determent... I was watching videos of deliriums on 3D printing (yes well, we keep ourselves busy as best we can). And now, I see two printers linked so I thought of you without knowing where you are in your quest or what they are worth
One at 400€: http://www.reprap-france.com/produit/1234568322-imprimante-3d-micro-delta-revision-1-1
One at 750€: http://www.reprap-france.com/produit/413-imprimante-3d-de-bureau-up-mini
But they seem to be having a good time with it
Otherwise, if you have time to kill, the not very intelligent video that made me laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUc8HBtlxUc
Hello
I just discovered the DAGOMA model at 299€ and made in France:
http://www.dagoma.fr/categorie-produit/imprimantes-3d/
Which has very good feedback:
http://www.lesimprimantes3d.fr/test-dagoma-discovery-200-20150829/
http://velocirepraptor.com/test-discovery200-limprimante-3d-a-300e-en-kit/
Do you know? Do you have an opinion on this model?
If anyone is motivated to do a comparison of all the printers... :)
If not, I will.
Finally, in my opinion, the best model is the DAGOMA Discovery 200 for:
- its price 299€ in kit and 399€ assembled
- its print volume of 20 cm x 20 cm x 20 cm
- its French conception (let's be a little chauvinistic!)
- its accuracy to 10 microns
Thank you all for your advice!
Link to the website:
http://www.dagoma.fr/produit/le-kit-discovery200/
You can even find people nearby to get their feedback and see the printer in action.
A priori it is better to take the build tak board with:
http://www.dagoma.fr/produit/build-tak-special-edition/