Hi all
We switched to SW 2024SP1 (2023 SP5 before) since this morning.
I hear a lot of complaining, especially the hourglass after editing a function.
Is there any feedback from other users?
Thank you in advance for your comments.
1 Like
In general, no one in the professional world switches to a version before the SP3 or even ideally the SP5.
And for my part SP5, only if the SW version is not too buggy otherwise we skip a year.
11 Likes
Hello, we made this mistake, a lot of crashes, graphical bugs, thickness of the lines of the planes magnified.
You can try 3Dexp, it's like being in SP1 all the time! A real disaster...
3 Likes
No positive comments yet...
Reply to sbadenis: We went to 2024 out of desperation because 2023 SP5 is still full of bugs; I see that you're still on the 2020, I don't remember if it was stable, but then, do you pay the maintenance costs?
Today, I can't count the crashes, it's painful ...
I hope that Dassaut will be aware of our comments.
We are only 2 BEs to have passed in 2024???
Yes we pay for the maintenance @ebaillie , we have to move to the 2023 soon (when a bug on the smartproperties sql counter will be solved)
For your information, all the versions are full of bugs but the SP5 are still less than the lower versions.
We had already skipped the 2022 version because the version was not great, so not too much, the choice for the 2023 2020 is starting to get old.
And after trying the big assemblies open 2x faster.
For the crashes let's hope it's not 3x faster...
1 Like
If I'm not mistaken, smartproperties is part of the VISIATIV offer so what does this have to do with the sql counter? and SW.
For my part, we work with the 2022 SP5. Graphical bugs especially.
Transition to 2023 scheduled for this month.
Our part number, assembly counter... is integrated into smartproperties and a bug takes place between the passage of the 2020 and the 2023. (more N° in the 2023...)
2 Likes
Hello
I understand the reason but leaving an SP5 for an SP1 you have to be a bit playful 
Given their speed to fix bugs and the promise made as part of the switch to 3DExp/SW Cloud, I'm waiting to see.
As I have already said elsewhere, not everyone is Microsoft (SW does not have the correction performance that an Office 365 can have with regular patches and personally typing patches blocking on SW is out of the question I prefer a given version which even with some bugs in SP5 will always be more stable than an SP0 up to SP3)
5 Likes
Only 7 or 8 months left to wait for SP5.0 (or 5.2 or 6.0?). Good luck.
1 Like
As you say, 7 or 8 months of hardship (minimum), I won't be caught !!
but how do you know that a version is stable?, I saw in the answers that you were going from 2020 to 2023, and 2022 to 2023;
We are only a small structure (5 licenses), and no IT department to test new versions...
Our goal, and especially that of the boss, is to produce plans to make as many machines as possible; and not to spend your time thinking about how to get around the SW bugs
Is there a site that rates or recommends such and such a pack of such and such a version?
3 Likes
Hello
At one time, resellers such as Cadware and others did not advise installing a version lower than SP4 for a professional design office environment.
In addition, when you are in companies where you cannot change SP easily, the easiest way is to aim for the SP5 a year late (for example, we just switched to the 2023 SP5 in February).
We have been working this way since 2016 and even if there are some residual bugs on the SP5 it is still less impactful overall.
3 Likes
I ask here to start, see the users' feelings in the first place.
I also ask Visiativ, they are the ones who have the most to report on the bugs since they have the common thread of the hotline.
Then I always test the versions with chronos on the opening times of a complex assembly made with Pack ang go (1st opening not counting since update of the files to the new version).
And as said never before Sp03 at least in general Sp04 or Sp05 as also advised by @Cyril.f
Then do not copy the profiles of a lower version this can generate many bugs and slowdowns. (see page 24 of the attached document)
For my part, 2 PCs side by side and I make a profile again by comparing the 2 screens of the 2 versions. And then I generate a typical profile for all the PCs of the new version that users then customize.
It's precisely because it's long that we switch to the next version only every 2 years in general if the SW version is not deprecated on the forum or by Visiativ.
Here is the document shared by @Coralie on a recent post (I couldn't find it via the search of the site which is not super efficient 
by the way) and which advises good practices, to avoid crashes and slowdowns.
These good practices certainly do not prevent all crashes, far from it, but they avoid a large part of them in my opinion.
SOLIDWORKS.pdf Performance (2.7 MB)
Edit: It's better to spend half a day or even a day testing than 6-8 months or even a year waiting for bug fixes or new versions. That's how I sell it to my manager.
7 Likes
@Maclane yes, ditto and that when you manage to create this kind of document, you are aware that it is a real problem!
1 Like
Hello
for our part we switched to the SP1 2024, no problems reported for the moment, (we are 7 daily users).
2 Likes
Hello
Each new version contains new features. Some bring improvements and others are less interesting or still mature. We install the new version from SP2. The SP0 and SP1 versions are " factory releases ". In short, it is the users who serve as "guinea pigs ". This raises questions about the methods of verification by the publisher...
From SP2 onwards we have a version that holds up more or less correctly. In any case, in 10 years of use, we have never encountered any serious bugs from the SP2 onwards. Last year on SW2023 SP2 the most annoying bug we had was on the units: there were values with a lot of digits after the decimal point. Pb corrected in SP3.
I find interesting the idea that Visiativ publishes a document of reliability of versions. We need their expertise and customer feedback. And also advice on good practices. With the amount of customers they have, it's also a mine of information and good advice to have.
I find that for a few years, there are fewer new functions or new features on the use but more new features on the improvement of the performance of openings, rotations, etc...
When I see the cost of the software that increases (maintenance over 2 years + rental model more expensive than the final purchase in the long term) I think that we are entitled to be more demanding with what the publisher delivers.
I think that patches should be more frequent since it seems that bug-free software does not exist.
PS: indeed installing SP1 is being a gamer
3 Likes
Bjr
I'm there!
A slightly annoying bug is the image scaling to take up profiles; systematic crash, but I have my solid edge that saves me... It's free in 2D version just in case...
Otherwise I didn't see anything catastrophic in what I had to do. And the possibility to return to Version 2022 is nice for our suppliers... Be careful if you use new features such as drilling on sketch profile, it doesn't work, save it in 2022 / 2023...
1 Like
It doesn't surprise me
2 Likes
It was announced that the new features would limit the recording in the previous version
2 Likes