Storing Items in the Geometry tab of a sketch

Hello

On the one hand, I have two small questions relating to the functioning in a sketch. In the geometry tab of my sketch, I have a lot of wireframes (pt, straight,...) that I'd like to put away to see more clearly.

1) Can we group in the wireframe elements (pt, line,...) that are in the Geometry tab?

2) When I have two superimposed wireframes in the display of my sketch (in this case 2 lines that overlap), how can I change the line that is at the first one? I would like a little bit like vector drawing software or even in powerpoint to make on a right a move to "go backward" and on another "forward" to have the display I want, the display of my sketch.

Thank you in advance for your help

 

Hello

If you have a file to attach to us, it would be easier to answer your questions.

Hello

There is nothing special except that I have a lot of wireframes in my sketch.

Obviously, in this Geometry tab, the elements are reclassified alphabetically but cannot remain at a chosen classification.

Hello

Not much possibility in the sketch.

The elements are created chronologically as the plot is made and are not reorderable.

Renaming one of the elements moves it to the top.

If you rename several elements, they are at the top but still respect the chronology of their creation.

We can't see your screenshot well but in my opinion if they are in alphabetical order it's pure chance.

Just do the tests by renaming non-consecutive elements and  randomly A; B,C,etc or 01; 02; 03; etc

The result was not orderly.

 

To do what you want, you don't have to use a sketch, but work in a geometric set (not ordered and not in hybrid mode) and draw the points and lines.

 

 

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Great Franck.

Thank you for your answer.

I understand what you want about the idea of passing a geometric set. I do this every time I make a part that rests on a skeleton.

My concern is that here I am doing a rather special application with CATIA. I actually use sketch mode to do planar cinematics.

In this case, using the sketch mode is very convenient because this mode allows me to know when my planar mechanism is or is not isoconstrained.

Conclusion: if you have a sleight of hand to use sketch mode while using functions that allow me to tidy up the geometric elements, I'm interested.

Otherwise, for the second question I asked, if you want to change when you have two lines superimposed on top of each other, the one in the foreground, do you have any ideas?

Thank you again for your advice

Yes, you can even animate a sketch constraint to simulate the movement of your cutscene.

For the organization it's not DTP but there are two tools :

Selection sets:

As its name suggests, it allows you to create a list of the elements of the sketch to be able to show/hide them, for example.

Layers associated with visualization filters:

If one of the lines is on the 0 layer and the other on the 1 it can look like the notion of forward, backward.

 

1) for the first point

"Yes, you can even animate a sketch constraint to simulate the movement of your cutscene."

Can you tell me a little more about this aspect? What do you mean by animating a sketch constraint?

2) for the second point

Your idea of using layers looks interesting. In principle, I see how it works. On the other hand, I didn't manage to set up this track.

In copy, I add a very simple example. In this example, the blue line is tjs in front of the orange line. I would now like to move the orange line past the blue line. 

Do you have an idea to make it happen?

Thank you in advance for your help.


lignes.catpart

For point 1 I look to see if I have kept a video.

For point 2:

It is the order of creation in CATIA that imposes the order of visualization so you just have to duplicate the lines in reverse order and use the visualization filters see attached video  .

 


dans-esquisse.mp4
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To complete and see the non-sketch rendering , you need to use the output components

See attached video


composant-de-sortie.mp4
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Item -1 

Animating a sketch constraint:

Watch video


animation.mp4
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Franck, very clear and precise! Super.

In addition, the component release that I didn't know should also be useful to me.

See you soon

Just a remark.

On the other hand, the layer trick is very interesting. But the fact that we can't store anything in the Geometry tab of the sketch mode, we can see that it's annoying because then we have a lot of wireframes in it and we don't know a priori if they're elements that we've put in a layer 1 or 2.

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Hello:

This is one of the reasons why, except for a need to animate (we don't have KIN), I don't draw any frame of reference (skeleton) or surface primitives from sketches:

We are frozen in relation to the support (plan) of the sketch.

As in hybrid design, the chronology of elements is essential.

Apart from the hide mode, you can't encapsulate elements.

For the use of layers (it's a workaround) it's not their primary function.