Sw 2021 better than 2020?

Hello

I don't know about you but since our switch to SW2020 it's been horror crashing waiting time latency blue bubble ect...

So we wonder if we move to sw2021 right away??

which has already moved on to 2021 and how do you feel.

Thank you

May the force be with you.

 

 

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On my SW2020 SP5 side, no more crash than usual. loading times can be a little longer indeed. But it's difficult to conclude because at the moment I'm working on large blends.

You can try a complete uninstall and clean reinstall before upgrading to the unknown!

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For the loading times no real change on the other hand the MEP recording endless and difficulty to export or save.

This is the feeling of 10-15 cartoonists in our company on the 2020 version.

I have the impression that the 1st recording of a version of MEP prior to 2020 is a big problem, after that it goes a little better and if you make an MEP from scratch not too much trouble either.

For the 2021 not tried.

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Hi all

I'm also curious to get feedback on the 2021 version,

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Hello

2021sp4 is out, it's an opportunity for me to raise the question about the first impressions of SW 2021.

May the Force be with you

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Hello @OBI WAN

Do you see an improvement compared to the remark of @sbadenis  [the MEP endless recording and difficulty to export or save.]

More generally, what does this version bring to your (your) daily work? I'm thinking here of some new features typical of the 2020 and 2021.
In your company, you who do big sub-assemblies and very large assemblies, what did the 2020 and 2021 bring you.
Large assemblies remain the weak point of CAD software, including SW, which holds a good place in the top five.

Kind regards

  @Coralie hello!! Could the people in charge of the "hot line" come to the subject once in a while (at each major version change for example) because they are the ones who have the most cases, exchanges with DS and who may have solutions other than what is in the online help.

 

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Hi all

@Zozo_mp's remark is very good I think: "Hi!! Could the people in charge of the "hot line" come to the subject once in a while (at each major version change for example) because they are the ones who have the most cases, exchanges with DS and who may have solutions other than what is in the online help."

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Hello @communauté, @Zozo_mp 

Indeed I understand your need to have feedback and recommendations on SW 2021, I will get closer to the Dassault teams to see if someone could come and discuss with you:) Even if it means creating a discussion group around this subject, very good idea! 

In the meantime, members of our support team will be able to provide you with some additional help! I'm sending them as reinforcements! 

Have a good day, Coralie :)

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Hello @Zozo_mp  I hope you're doing well.

As you say we work with very large assemblies and I change versions every year to make the most of the SW evolutions even if it's not always very conclusive. I regret  SW2019 which was much more enjoyable than the 2020! hence my question about the 2021! I would have liked to have had some initial feedback before taking the plunge. I think I'll test it soon on an isolated workstation . I will not fail to give you feedback.

otherwise yes as @sbadenis  big problems on the drawings but not only :(.

may the force be with you.

 

 

 

 

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About the Innovation Day there is a session dedicated to the subject of large complexes

That said: it would be interesting to identify the big gap between what we are told or shown (see the 2018 show) since 2019 and what you feel in your companies.

Does it come from a PDM environment or does it happen on strictly individual workstations?

Kind regards

 

 

 


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For the 2020, the heaviness of the drawings, the big black spot and strongly accentuate if certain parts are in transparency.

We noticed that with the building in transparency, for example, it becomes almost impossible to record a large drawing. It turns all night sometimes to end up crashing.

If we go back to the building in non-transparent mode, it is still a hassle but in a much less way.

And since we used to put all the strips in transparency as well as the plexiglass doors and others, it quickly becomes problematic during the assembly registration and worse of MEP.

For the 2021 version I am also  waiting for your feedback because with the 2020 it becomes very complicated sometimes.

 

PS: the heaviness remains on an individual position.

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@tous, 

I have launched a call to all people with experience or customer feedback (support team, trainers, etc.) regarding SW 2021. 

We try to provide you with feedback and recommendations as soon as possible! 

Coralie 

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Hello @sbadenis 

In your building, are all the exterior rooms made transparent (e.g. the walls) or is it only transparent objects such as glass or plexiglass panels?

Are you allowing me to say something stupid?

Kind regards

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THANK YOU  @Coralie     :-)   :-)

 

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Anyway, I sometimes put the walls + floor to see through it temporarily. And also to have some parts conveyor belt or plexiglass part here and there. And as soon as one or more pieces are transparent, the more the multiplier coefficient of chance for his oar/plant is important in 2020!

@Zozo_mp stupidity granted!

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@tous, 

I would like to share with you the answer of Maxime CASIER, our SOLIDWORKS trainer, who recommends SOLIDWORKS 2021;   

"Few customer feedback after the SOLIDWORKS 2021 training, which is a good sign! I didn't encounter any " big " problems on this 2021. I know that SolidWorks has worked a lot on fixing the bugs in this 2021, they highlight it very well on this poster: there are fewer new features but more quality/performance."  

 

I am waiting for more feedback from our support team in order to bring you more testimonials. 

Coralie 

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Hello 

As far as I'm concerned, I don't really work on SW for development since CATIA is imposed.

On the other hand, I use the calculation module quite regularly, with the imported Catia files.

In the SW simulation module I noticed a clear improvement:

- improved computation time, it seems to me that there has been a lot of work on the solvers

- less interference problem, not always justified (import problem)

- it seems to me that the processor is optimized during the calculation phase, it seems that for some phases of the calculation it manages the different cores of the processor better 

- I also have less problems using the connectors

That's it for a little feedback....

Have a nice day

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@sbadenis

[STUPIDITY MODE ON granted]

I share this point with you. I am often bothered with transparent parts in ASMs that are a bit copious because when I have two or other combinations I can't easily select the faces to measure or put a constraint.

So I change the material for glass or transparent plastic.

And there! Tada!!!

I can select anything I want.
I don't know anything about configurations but you should be able to with  a glass or plastic configuration and the other with steel sheet or other opaque material.

On the other hand, for the MEP I don't use transparent material so it's up to you to see if this proposal is suitable or if it sucks ;-)

[Stupidity MODE Granted /OFF]

Kind regards

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Hello

As for the plan, I'm starting to test the fact that I always save them as a detached plan. This way if I need to add a dimension, annotation  or a crash I can intervene quickly but if it's a cut modification I will be forced to reload in clear I have a chance in 2 to be able to go fast. This is already a solution to save  50%.

From the explorer, it is easy to see if the plan is saved as a detached drawing or not, just put the mouse on the file without doing anything and a box opens with several information including whether or not it is saved in detached drawing.

I'll let you test on your side.

May the force be with you.

 

 

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Hello 

I have seen some problems with Drawing, heavy mep and opening/recording times, 

I invite you to go to Options > Drawing / Performance and uncheck "Include skin mode data when recording", (appeared in 2020 SP4.0).

The first opening is always long but after a first recording this should no longer be the case and the weight should decrease, 

Have a nice day

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