Symmetrizing a sketch with its dimensions and relationships?

Hello @mis

Back with my intractable problems that are only problems for me :pensive:

I want to symmetrize a sketch but keeping all the dimensions and relationships of its entities, all on the same front plane, and above all, the same normal. I've tried different ways, but I can't get what I want. I manage to symmetry by keeping the odds and relationships but the normal is reversed...

Do you have a method that doesn't require me to create a new plan?

That the result is exactly as if I had drawn the sketch the other way around on the front plane.

An important detail is that this symmetrical sketch will be added. It is in fact derived but must be unique and independent. The goal is to draw a sketch that I symmetrize and then make independent, in order to have the common (inverted) shape as a basis for work and to add the holes and other small variations of contour.

Thank you.

If only I could just copy/paste with inversion of the normal of the copied entities...

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Hello!

You need to create a sketch block.
Then you copy this block into a second open sketch on the same support plane, then you symmetrize the block.
The changes made in the first block will carry over to the second, but you keep the independence of the sketches to add other shapes outside the blocks.
Don't hesitate to tell me if it's not quite clear in the explanation...

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Hello @Silver_Surfer Thank you!

So I will add, to fully satisfy my need, that after having symmetrical the block without copying , I explode it! This has the effect of removing the block while leaving the symmetrical sketch (and only it) in position on the original plane, and of making all the relations and dimensions (which we no longer see in a block) reappear. As if I had drawn it like that!

Simple, fast, effective. It's perfect! Are you my superhero @Silver_Surfer :smiley:

NB: The only small downside is that the quotes " slide " or do not follow the side of the rating. The entities rotate but not the quotes, so bcp intersect. For example, a net dimension inclined to the right, will not tilt to the left, so you have to slide by hand to clear it up. This is only a visual concern and a very small disadvantage compared to the time saved.

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Hello
I'm a little late, but have you tried dynamic sketching?
The basic general shape in the first creation will not change, any modification on one of the 2 sketches will not impact the second (addition, unhooked,...)

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Hello @Le_Bidule all good advice is always good to take. Thank you.

At the risk of sounding like a noob, I missed the dynamic sketches. I don't even know where to find it. I want details.

Well, you got it, I haven't tried dynamic sketches. However, if I read between your lines, it seems to imply that the original stays in the same room. The fight is guaranteed.

In the case that concerns me above I wanted 2 separate PRTs.
In the case of 2 right and left configurations in the same one, leaving in the non-deleted state only the functions associated with the desired side, if I switch the state of the reference sketch, the symmetry will necessarily be removed, right?

Idea to test if it suits your project.
1/ Once your esq is done, you copy it to the same plan, so create a new esq in the feature manager
2/ in each esq you put the opposite symmetry as a construction line
3/ do 2 extrusions (e.g. or more), one (or +) for each sketch so you can put an extrusion value by extrusion, etc...
4/ in the cfg manager make 2 derived configurations (or more if you want)
5/ Configure the extrusion functions
Hoping that this will help you move forward with your project

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The block method is simpler anyway :grin: and it can also be used to make 2 parts or 2 configurations.

If I understand you correctly, it would give 2 sketches, each containing 2 times each entity? It doesn't lighten the document.

Thank you for proposing.

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