Customizable Diamond Library Help

Hello, I need your help to try to reproduce what Rhino does with the Panther 3D plugin on Solidworks.

I'm in the jewelry business and need a library of parametric stones.

  • Shape: round, princess, emerald, wand etc.
  • Size: diameter, height / L x W x H

I have already created a family of pieces for the round :gem: diamond because it is a simple scale that you have to manage, but for the other shapes it is a different story!

Currently, I open Rhino, I configure my stone and I export it to STEP.

I would like to find an internal solution to Solidworks.

Thank you for your help!

Ps: I can't get the families of parts to work on the 3 axes independently (x,y and z), it's probably a bug but it could be a solution even if I'm afraid that the file is extremely large and slow because of the large number of possible configurations.

Hello

As I understand it, you don't create gems in Solidworks.
There is no library on the market you can create them in Rhino ???

I suggest that you tell us more because besides the fact that few colleagues know your universe, to help you we need to better understand where the PB is.

Kind regards

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I say that it can make a nice useful and formative challenge :wink:
Don't forget to let us know which version of SW you are on, which may allow you to directly retrieve the SW file instead of trying to recreate it.
As my colleague Zozo says, apart from the fact that it generally pleases our ladies and that it is expensive :stuck_out_tongue: , we don't know much about stone cutting.
I would start from the principle that you have to cut the stone under SW in the same order of shaping at first.
Maybe for some model there is a way to do with repetitions or symmetry functions, to see.
In any case I would start with one type of cut = 1 part file. Mixing styles would make it a mess. (but not infeasible)
After in principle, is there a reason to represent stones with all their facets? apart from a rendering? Wouldn't a simple volume be enough? (well ok it always looks more chic when the details are at the maximum but it's working time^^)
it's a shame that I don't have my SW activated at home otherwise I would have started right away.

Edit: do the cutting angles of the facets for the same model change or is it constant?

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Here is a very nice little link for the curious
Diamonds

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Hello, thank you for your answers :+1:
I'm not at work right now but on Monday morning, I'm going to add a Step file containing all the possible stone cuts!

I'm sure SW 2022 SP 2

Couldn't we use a Step file as a basis for work? If you have to redo everything, there is really something for a while...

To answer zozo's question, there is a parametric library in Rhino, I will also post a screen of it on Monday morning

Thank you :wink:

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I don't think you can set a step outside the volume scale.
Otherwise yes you have to redo everything under SW.
To see what are the parameters you need maybe just width / height and not necessarily certain angles, it's up to you to tell us how far you want to go or need. I saw that there could be some variations in the number of facets for certain type of cut / size.
After that, it is possible to do everything on the same file but you have to be well organized with folders in the creation tree.

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For the moment if I manage to redo the main ones, namely: round (I already have a scale config that does the job), rod (lxWxH), princess (wxh), emerald (lxWxhxH) and oval (lxWxh) it would be great.

I couldn't simplify the shapes for the design but I also do a lot of rendering:

I will post more information on Monday morning

Thank you!

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Demonstration video of the stone library present in Rhino with the Panther 3D plugin:

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Thank you
So to sum up it's only scaling on the 3 axes, moreover for the height no difference for the upper and lower part of the stone.
So it's not entirely out of the question to be able to use a step + scaling or deformation behind it.
This would avoid modeling it under SW.
to be studied^^

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Hello
Is there a standard or dimensions to be respected, for the dimensions of the veneers?

Well the little test I just did, it excludes the import of a 3D model type Step / IGES to deform it afterwards. unless I'm mistaken, SW don't know how to stretch/reduce shape on an axis.
It's more the software like blender 3d max that does it.
So let's go for the challenge "create customizable stones under sw :stuck_out_tongue: "

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Well summed up, thank you for your help!
Another problem, if we go through configurations, we will end up with an impossible number of possibilities and therefore configurations ...

I add a STEP file of the stone shapes that I want to be able to configure :wink:
Main forms of lynkoa stone. STEP (1.2 MB)

Thank you

Deformation is possible with scaling along the 3 axes independently by unchecking the "uniform scale" box. The result is in %
Traction (stretching) is also possible with the flex function by ticking "traction". The value is in mm.

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  • Yes but as explained in my first message, impossible for me to manage these 3 values in the family of parts probably because of a bug...
  • 2nd problem, you would have to create a lot of configuration to have all the possible sizes of the stone (example: height = 2 / width = 2.2 / length = 3.6 etc)

Thank you for your involvement

To work around the bug, use hide/show scaling and create as many MAEs as different versions.
For the 2nd pb there is excel which makes editing tables easier.
Maybe you need a macro that creates these functions faster.

oh bug the ugly little checkbox that I haven't seen :laughing: and like that we test the option Answer to a like :stuck_out_tongue:

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It's a solution but if I want to create all the size variations for a baguette (rectangle) diamond for example:

Length: 0.5 to 8 with a pitch of 0.1
Width: 0.5 to 8 with a pitch of 0.1
Height: 0.5 to 8 with a pitch of 0.1

That's 75 possible values per parameter
So 75 to the power of 3 to have the right number of configurations, i.e. 421,875 configurations...

Tell me if I'm wrong but I think that's it

I think there are much fewer because there should be limits of proportions. For example, L > l.
Long=0.5 and width=1.0 cannot exist. Simply rotate the workpiece 90°.
Long = 8 and larg = 0.5 cannot exist because for a baguette
Screenshot_1
it would result in an unusable stone
Screenshot_6
So limits of relations between Llh to be imposed.
By applying these conditions, it should drastically reduce the number of versions.
And you have to use excel. More friendly than the SW equation editor.

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Even if we limit the number of possible configurations to 10,000, the file would be much too large to be used so I don't think this solution is viable.

Maybe you should go for a one-shot creation when inserting via a library file (.sldlfp) or other...

I'll think about it
:thinking:

I would use the room families to create a library of these stones. Of course, it takes a little time, but I don't see any other solution. I think you have to do that for one stone and then copy the model for the others.