Choosing a pc

I would like to change my pc.
I plan to keep my QUDARO 600
What do you think of this, among other things:

DELL OPTIPLEX 7010 USFF - WINDOWS 10
Intel Core i5 3470S 2.90 GHz / 8GB DDR3 RAM / 320GB HDD(refurbished)

Dell OptiPlex 3010 SFF, Intel Core i5 3470/3.20GHz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 240GB SSD, DVD, HDMI, Windows 10 Pro (Refurbished)

Thank you

Diiity

Hello.
In my opinion, 8 GB is far too little. 16GB minimum. And the ddr3 is starting to date, so you might as well put ddr4.

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Hello
I add that the video card is a bit tight too. You can replace the 2x4GB->2x8GB ram.
16GB max on this motherboard.
DDR4 is not compatible with this PC.

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Thank you for your answers.

I should point out that I use SW2013 until today with a pc of 8GB of ram in ddr3, this quadro 600, the motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-F2A78M-HD2 and the processor is a DualCore AMD A4-4000, 3200 MHz (32 x 100).

I'm not a great draftsman, I tinker, I mainly draw RC airplane parts and some odds and ends of everyday life, all for a 3D print.

Diiity

Under which OS (the current pc)?

Are you considering an update to SW?

The capacity of the disks seems very limited to me (between W10, MS Office and SW and I imagine you have other software to install), there won't be much left, the minimum of the minimum is more like 500GB, with 1TB you will be fine.
In addition, pay attention to the lifespan of the disks on second-hand hardware (especially the SSD whose technology is very old).

Otherwise, I'd rather take the 3010 whose μproc is (slightly) faster.

I'm on win 7 pro.

An update, maybe, a 2018 but no more for what I do.

I only have the system on my 250GB SSD with 186GB free, everything else is on a 300GB HDD

Hello @diiity

I don't want to spoil the atmosphere but make sure you can still download SW at your VAR, some versions are no longer maintained.
Otherwise it's a bit-by-bit copy of all the old HDD on the new one, which seems to me the simplest and safest.

Kind regards

What do you call VAR?
The re-installation, I've already done, it's long but you have to go through it.
Diiity

Hello
I relaunch my request.
If I understood correctly, I would need a 4-core mini processor at 3.20 GHz and 16GB of DDR4.
diiity

Pan on the beak ( Ouch ! )

Excuse me, I'm caught in the act of jargon!

VAR, DVA in French, is the acronym for Value-added Reseller. It designates a value-added reseller . By added value, we mean the fact that he has a resale business, but also a service activity. (definition source Wikipedia).

Kind regards

PS: 16 GB is a minimum because otherwise you have a message (monitor resources that break them)
If one day you start doing PEF simulation with ASMs a little big, 16 GB is too tight.

Thank you for the explanation.
I don't think I'll do simulation, my interest with SW is mainly model aeronautics.
I asked for a quote from grosbill specifying what I was doing but it's much too expensive for an amateur.

Hello @diiity
Beyond the price variation depending on the seller you get it from, if it's out of budget you can at least make do with 16GB of RAM instead of 32, it divides the RAM cost by 2 and keeps a decent amount.
I know it's not the biggest price but hey :sweat_smile:

Hello @diiity ,
Try to watch with an ADM Ryzem 5 processor (6 cores at 3.6Ghz Swiss price 110chf),
at one time it was cheaper than Intel, its little bit to save 200euro
In addition, motherboards with often have an integrated graphics card equivalent to the same choice.
Personally that's what I have for my solidworks 2006

Oh yes, and if you already have a graphics card, you may already have a power supply too? If so, which one? Maybe you can avoid buying a new one.

For my part, I run with a Gigabyte GA-F2A78M-HD2 and the processor is a DualCore AMD A4-4000, 3200 MHz (32 x 100), a quadro 600 card and 8GB of DDR3. under win 7 pro and SW2013.
So I tell myself, that indeed the processor you offer is not bad, especially since it is 159€ at grosbill.
To that you need the motherboard which is fine but which one and 16GB of DDR4 as @Sylk advises.

As far as the power supply is concerned, I have a DELL OPTIPLEX 3010 case
I'm attaching my current config
PC aero 14-01-2021.txt (4.1 KB)

As far as the motherboard is concerned, will a micro ATX do the trick, is that what I have now?
By the way, what are the differences apart from the size?

Hello @diiity

The difference is often the size, the number of ports available,
the number of map slots available, and in most cases
the ATX have an integrated graphics card

Hello Centor,

So it's interesting to take a micro ATX, the only evolution I can predict is the ram, so I'll put a single 16GB stick and then later it may be... add one.

As for the graphics card, I have the quadro 600 but the integrated ones are efficient enough, there I'm not sure.

on the last PC I built 4 years ago, I have an AMD 8 Core processor
8gram and an integrated graphics card which was if I'm not mistaken, GTXForce 750 4gram

But it was the period of the first launch of the 8 cores, I just needed to buy
The motherboard, the memory and the processor, I had it for 300chf at the time

In terms of the graphics card, I don't know exactly the difference between the GTXForce 750
and the Qaudro 600, because never had a Quadro for solidworks, so visual level
I don't know, but I know that I can't do the real view on the PC where it is
I have a GTXForce 720