Sheet metal cone cutting

Hi all

I have a little problem creating the part of which you will find a 3D PDF attached on Solidworks.

To put it simply, it's a sheet metal cone from which we subtract material in the unfolded state to make 3 waves.

Make the cone, no worries, do the material removal, no worries except that SW no longer knows how to  fold the part after the material removal.

I drew it in Inventor and it goes very well but the company I work for wants to have the native SW files...

Does anyone have an idea?


piece1.pdf
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Hello

Personally when I open the file I have the info panels, but not the geometry. I open this with PDF expert on Mac, it may come from there.

But otherwise you say that SW can no longer fold the sheet metal after the removal of material...  

How did you create it? by going through the unfolded state or by using the "Unfold" function of the sheet metal module? 

A+

Hubert

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Hello

In the 3D PDF there is nothing can you send your Solidworks file or in neutral format (STEP-Parasolid)? I'm in 2016, I'm specifying part of the sending of the original Solidworks file...

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Hello YvesT

Can you post your piece.

At first reading I see two things, or rather two basic hypotheses

This is the way material removal is done in Inventor and the removal of material after rolling.

I guess we originally did a sheet metal conversion after making a cone in a boss base/smooth base.

Where it gets complicated is that you just want to do the conversion without having to take the part(s) again, otherwise you do the removal of material in the original flat sketch.

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Hello

The 3D Pdf file contains everything you need.A preview of the finished part in Inventor:

An overview of the room under SW:

There is no conversion to sheet metal. I go through a "Transition Fold" function.


piece_sw_2018.sldprt
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The finished part in Step format.

Just for the record, I can't go through a sketch on a plan (1/3 of a cone) and make an extrusion. A flattened shape is created in the lower parts of the waves.


Part1.STP
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Before your unfolding, place a small chamfer like in my tutorial and you should get there. This is a way around the problem.

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Good idea, but same mistake:" Reconstruction error, This part contains functions that cannot be unfolded.

Look at my piece, you will have to adapt the cut-outs to your needs...  


ac_cobra.sldprt
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Hello Yves

Sorry but the part of @ac cobra 427 works well. To have it unfolded, simply delete the fold1 function (penultimate line).

No longer use the "Unfold"" function  in the last line. I did an MEP with the cobra @ac file and it works to have the part flat.

Yves I went for a less elegant and more complicated solution than @ac cobra because I wanted to reuse your sketch without changing it (obviously it's more complicated).

A little question of pure curiosity! how are they going to make the part in the workshop by rolling or with four folds not easy to do except on CNC bending machines

In any case, your problem is very interesting , we learn a lot about cases like this. So thank you :-) :-)

 

 


cone_enlevement_de_matiere__zz.sldprt
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@AC Cobra: Your piece works and that's exactly what I did. Except that when I do it on SW 2018 it doesn't work.

@Zozo: I also tried to use a sketch projection except that you would have to calculate the radius of the waves according to the angle of the cone.

I also tried to roll up and remove material but without result.

I have already drawn similar parts under old versions and no problem to make these unfolded ...

Maybe an update to be done at the Solidworks level to the latest available SP, but it is not done yet.

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I'm already in SP2. That's the thing that makes me sick to spend 4 hours doing something that only takes 5 minutes... I'm going to get back to SW 2016 and test...

@AC Cobra: Even though I record your piece in 2018, it works.

For your information, the part is simply rolled. A disc is then added inside to correct the lack of deformation of the upper parts.

Yves

It's curious because the Cobra @ac part works by taking the precautions I indicated to unfold.

When you say [[except that you would have to calculate the radius of the waves according to the angle of the cone.]] it means that the sketch of your drawing was not good. The method of doing the ripple flat like in Cobra doesn't suit you, I thought it was not bad.

Maybe I don't understand the result you expect!!!

That said, for the problem of the unfolded that gets stuck in the V 2018 it's curious that there is a functional regression in sheet metal.

Plush

 

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These are the computer games... Sometimes I make parts and it doesn't work at home and my colleague the exact same station with the same configurations and at home it works... Who knows...

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If not at worst; There is still this solution. 

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I had thought about it too. When I saw that it didn't work in sheet metal, I wanted to do it in surface. But it didn't work either...

Well in the end, it's just that SW 2018 is a big mess full of buggs... (it's not because I wasted 5 hours searching that I'm saying that, it's really a pile of mud...)

Works perfectly under SW 2016 and 2017.

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Well, I'm in a hurry, I reinstalled SW 2016 Sp5 as well as SW 2017 Sp4 and it doesn't work any better than with the 2018 Sp1 or 2. At home, I have an old 2016 SP4 and it works just like AC CObra. Anyway, since I spent 8 hours making a simple cut cone and it still doesn't work under SW, they will be entitled to an stl file for 3D and a DXF for laser cutting.

That's what I like about SW, we don't fix the old buggs of 10 years and we are given "new features" every year. As they must think that it works too well, they add a pair of buggs here and there.

PS: Sorry but I have a gut in my head that is starting to swell.

Solidworks and its large nebula of bug updates "fixed"

Why don't you use my file if it works???

Hello

I don't have SW at home but have you tried to do the opposite, i.e. to make a volume with the wave and then convert it into sheet metal? Unfortunately I can't do the test today.

The only thing I don't know anymore is how it manages the starting sheet on a cylinder. (I do it regularly on cubic sheet metal)

 

Edit: it's really time for me to install SW at home even if it means transferring the licenses