I'm starting the creo vs solidworks debate

In what sense should it be taken?
THE features of creo T1 = SW premium
or
The base fare = SW premium

If you have any figures I'm interested

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Yes so on Creo you can open from native SW this room in Creo is a dead body.
If on this same part you make a change on SW, this change will be made in Creo.
Which means that your ASM in Creo will always be up to date with your parts drawn with SW.
So you can draw on SW (your parts, assembly etc) get them under Creo to build your big ASM and make your plans.

So keep the SW licenses with or without maintenance to draw and have one or 2 Creo to do the big ASM because it " would seem easier to use " and also to make the plans together.
I hope I have been clearer :wink:

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So I don't have a figure yet.
to today what I know
Creo is not in perpetual license only in annual rental (to be confirmed)
currently it offers discounts for people who want to migrate from CAD X software to creo.

" THE functionality of creo T1 = SW premium "
yes that's the T1 function = sw premium

ATTENTION => all this in the conditional I am only repeating the salesman's speech I have not yet seen anything with my eyes

@FUZ3D now I have a contact that I can transfer to you

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Han, it's a cool option (the part that can be modified in creo if modified in Sldw). Never had the opportunity to test, but it looks great

Well, clearly, you'll be able to test when they come as a result. You reassemble with your solidworks parts. It allows you to see if it's really easy for the constraints (I doubt it!) and it allows you to see if the part really changes in case of evolution.

I'm quite curious to have your feedback on this! :slight_smile:

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The opposite is also true: opening a native creo in SW with an update in the SW assembly if the component is modified in its original CREO.
But not sure that the 2 software is the same kernel. Parasolid for SW, for CREO I don't know.

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Hi @OBI_WAN

According to PTC Creo Parametric - EAC Product Development Solutions, creo T1 (or creo ' design essentials ') is far from being the equivalent of SW Premium (there is no finite element calculation for example which is in the T4 (or creo ' design advanced '). A lot of advanced tools are also available in T2 or T3 (surface...).

I'm interested in your return from MEP creo from an assembly under SW though.

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Ditto, also hoping that the opening of the model imported under Créo will not be as difficult and long as under SW (even if much better since 2023)

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it's noted for the T1 version.
I'm waiting for him to contact me again to ask him the question to see if he confirms or not.

Bjr,
I just had the CREO sales representative on the phone.
It confirms to me that the functions of the T1 are indeed the equivalent of sw premium.
There is the linear static calculation module.
On the other hand, to have more advanced calculations such as buckling, thermal, non-linear, you have to take an additional module.
The subject is moving forward, I'm waiting for an appointment for a demo and I warned them that I was going to put them in the hard place to increase the pressure lol.
May the force be with you.

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It's true that, when you go to their site, you have a hell of a lot of simulation modules.

Can't wait for your " assassin " return for one or the other hihihihihi

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For your information, an interesting little video by following this link:

On the other hand, with a large SW assembly, will the behavior be identical?
Only @OBI_WAN will be able to tell us.
But it seems that large assemblies are better managed by Creo according to some forums.

yes it's the article that set the powder keg on fire (see my first message at the top)
I'll keep you informed of the progress on the subject, no worries.

I see that many people seem to be passionate about this position, hence my question.

Small survey:
Who has ever thought about changing Solidworks to another CAD and what motive made you want to change.

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Personally, what bothers me the most with SolidWorks is the heaviness of the MEPs (detail and section views etc...)
And perhaps also the constraints in assembly which weigh down the model a lot.
Otherwise for the moment in view of the possibilities of the software it's hard to leave it without a good reason, especially since the library will not follow.

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What do you call heaviness @ronathan ?

To answer you @OBI_WAN : no, clearly not. Sometimes, I miss the rigor of Creo... but as a result, it's still " Defois ". Solidworks is still much more affordable for me in what I have to do :slight_smile:

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For my part, I have already studied the replacement of SW by TopSolid v7.
Context: company historically on TopSolid v6, the majority of customers and partner with SW, so cohabitation TopSolid v6 + SolidWorks. Then TopSolid v7 arrives.

Each of the software had advantages and disadvantages:
TopSolid v7:
The advantages → the cost (much cheaper than SW!!), pdm (super well thought out) integrated basic, material and processing managed as an independent record, notion of operation (insert a screw in an assembly and it makes the holes and taps go well), a library of very well supplied std components (at least more than enough for our needs at the time).
The less → the formatting functions considerably weighed down the design process (what took me about 20 minutes with SW took me almost 2 hours with TopSolid...), not necessarily more stable than SW but it was the very first release of TSv7 so...

My memories fail me about the drawings, even if I had noticed that TopSolid was much more in tune with the annotations according to the ISO than SW can still be today!

To facilitate collaboration with customers or subcontractors, SW was chosen.

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Hello,

What is sure is that they are not in a hurry to sell their software :rofl: the art of how to lose new customers.

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@FUZ3D
The file is moving forward on my side.
I had a video appointment to explain our problems with SW and what we expect from them.
I have an appointment in person tomorrow afternoon for a demo.
I will get back to you as soon as possible.
may the force be with you.

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Bjr,
a look back at my CREO appointment.
We were able to sweep away several subjects.
drawings, assembly big assembly.
-you open a tractor 9000 pieces from a laptop in 2 minutes, a cut in 2 minutes.
-Native SW coin recovery very easily without tree structure but very easily editable.
-several things really appeal to me such as the creation of configurations without opening the 3D
-A lot of similarity with SW but " to be confirmed " Much more fluidity is less latency.
The next step is the loan of license for 1 month with a training to test myself live.
But frankly they piqued my curiosity and I am very eager to test it because from what I have seen it seems very promising.
I am perfectly aware that I attended a commercial demonstration and I will only decide at the end of the loan of the license that I will have tested myself.
To be continued.
May the force be with you.

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… Is it possible???.. Cool, Solidworks should learn from this... as for the fluidity and latency by the way... :crazy_face:

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